tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post112051811040840745..comments2023-11-02T06:37:23.839-06:00Comments on daveberta.ca: money money moneydavebertahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06822739409684978316noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120580603981668312005-07-05T10:23:00.000-06:002005-07-05T10:23:00.000-06:00ah. Thanks Jason. But shouldn't that be counted as...ah. Thanks Jason. But shouldn't that be counted as well? Will those numbers be in a seperate EC report?davebertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06822739409684978316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120579192153794662005-07-05T09:59:00.000-06:002005-07-05T09:59:00.000-06:00I took a look at the CBC story and this only inclu...I took a look at the CBC story and this only includes donations to the national party. I know that the Liberal Party has been focusing on donations to ridings, so that could be part of an explanation.Jason Cherniakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12473304114206630747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120578769082692742005-07-05T09:52:00.000-06:002005-07-05T09:52:00.000-06:00I'm not sure that I like the idea of the Federal P...I'm not sure that I like the idea of the Federal Provincial connection. I don't think I would join a party that was basically merged with its federal or provincial counterpart. I think I should be able to reserve the right to not support one or the other. I don't like the idea of being handcuffed. <BR/><BR/>For example, I know a number of people who support the federal ND's but support the Alberta Liberals provincially. <BR/><BR/>Though with a fourth party like the ND's, it might make more sense to be connected for simple organizational and financial purposes. Strength in numbers....davebertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06822739409684978316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120577928651715302005-07-05T09:38:00.000-06:002005-07-05T09:38:00.000-06:00Calgarygrit,Yes it includes the provincial parties...Calgarygrit,<BR/><BR/>Yes it includes the provincial parties, but that's because of the way the NDP is organized. I joined the Ontario NDP and get the Federal membership for free!<BR/><BR/>So inorder to be in the feds, you are automatically part of the provincial wing.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06941875334878452635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120575744580922772005-07-05T09:02:00.001-06:002005-07-05T09:02:00.001-06:00The new finance rules weren't about cleaning up th...The new finance rules weren't about cleaning up the system - they were about Chretien taking the opportunity to screw over Martin by cutting off the corporate donations. :)Michael Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15225767793602935802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120575740650837412005-07-05T09:02:00.000-06:002005-07-05T09:02:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Michael Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15225767793602935802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120544812279212382005-07-05T00:26:00.000-06:002005-07-05T00:26:00.000-06:00The NDP total is a bit inflated because it include...The NDP total is a bit inflated because it includes their provincial parties as well. But still...this isn't very encouraging for the Liberals, even though they'll get more than the other parties through the 1.75$/vote scheme. <BR/><BR/>But it's not overly surprising. 2004 was not a very exciting year to be a Liberal whereas the new Conservative Party was born and rising in the polls. I also tend to think the Liberals put people on the National Executive who would be puppets to the Centre, rather than the most qualified people who could raise money.calgarygrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14496123174056722783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120532102139935492005-07-04T20:55:00.000-06:002005-07-04T20:55:00.000-06:00This also lends some credence to the Grits content...This also lends some credence to the Grits contention (you'll be hearing it non-stop from September until the next election) that they really are "cleaning up the system".<BR/><BR/>It's probably not 100% true, of course, but there is something to be said for a party that brings in finace reform laws that seem to have screwed themselves more than any of their opponents. But don't worry about the Libs... they spend months and months taking credit for that.Lord Kitchener's Ownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08348376638620272991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120530282032168912005-07-04T20:24:00.000-06:002005-07-04T20:24:00.000-06:00Jason: If i'm not mistaken, this is the total rais...Jason: If i'm not mistaken, this is the total raised (constits included) - someone correct me if i'm wrong. <BR/><BR/>Analogue: My smart money would be on a Conservative Party led by someone like Bernard Lord or Potato Pete. Harper is a dud of a leader and Canadians can see it. <BR/><BR/>To all: I think these numbers may show the unhealthy dependence that the Feds had on Corporate donations, whereas the CPC depends more on individual donations. I'm interested to see if Magna continues to donate to the Tories after Ms. Stronach's crossing. Interesting...davebertahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06822739409684978316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120519088595991032005-07-04T17:18:00.000-06:002005-07-04T17:18:00.000-06:00That also means that the Liberals raised the same ...That also means that the Liberals raised the same amount as the NDP. Is that really true? Does it include ridings?Jason Cherniakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12473304114206630747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-1120518825466297062005-07-04T17:13:00.000-06:002005-07-04T17:13:00.000-06:00I guess money doesn't by your way in the hearts of...I guess money doesn't by your way in the hearts of Canadians. The Tories may have $10 in the bank, but they still can't break the 30% mark for more than a couple of minutes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com