tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post6109123620994141885..comments2023-11-02T06:37:23.839-06:00Comments on daveberta.ca: alberta election 2008: the aftermath.davebertahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06822739409684978316noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-61275181069159072802008-03-05T13:30:00.000-07:002008-03-05T13:30:00.000-07:00How about this? Barak Obama uses the phrase "we ar...How about this? Barak Obama uses the phrase "we are the change that we have been waiting for." What if Ed Stelmach used the same phrase? It be just as true for him. Unfortunately for a lot of progressive Albertans - Ed is exactly the kind of change that Albertans have been waiting for. Go figure!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-76798850850625533042008-03-05T13:28:00.000-07:002008-03-05T13:28:00.000-07:00How about this? Barak Obama uses the phrase "we ar...How about this? Barak Obama uses the phrase "we are the change that we have been waiting for." What if Ed Stelmach made the same comment. It wouldn't be any less true. Unfortunately for a lot of progressive Albertans - Ed is exactly the kind of change that Albertans have been waiting for. Go figure!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-10213906760762987532008-03-05T13:14:00.000-07:002008-03-05T13:14:00.000-07:00"I'm really wondering what were the 59% of Alberta..."I'm really wondering what were the 59% of Albertans who didn't vote were doing yesterday that was more important than voting?"<BR/><BR/>I was at work, up in the oilsands, where thousands of us were too disconnected from society to know that it was election day. At any rate we couldn't return to our home ridings to vote, and there's no mail service up here for mail-in ballots, which we would have had to register for and send away a while ago.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08611873744832596268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-20956706834051862912008-03-05T09:36:00.000-07:002008-03-05T09:36:00.000-07:00When elections are competitive the electoral proce...When elections are competitive the electoral process yields proportionate results regardless of turnout. When one party is so out of touch with Albertans that they muster only 26% of the popular vote, they lose an exaggerated number of seats. The process isn't flawed, the party is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-8117288286006771112008-03-05T07:56:00.000-07:002008-03-05T07:56:00.000-07:00In his post victory celebration, Stelmach stated "...In his post victory celebration, Stelmach stated "..the election win shows Tories are in tune with Albertans..". Give me a break.<BR/><BR/>The tories can be elated that they are in tune with approx. 22% of Albertans (42% turnout x 53% pop. vote). Hey, but at least that 22% votes.<BR/><BR/>Also, the Alberta Liberals need a fresh face. Nothing against Kevin Taft but he obviously hasn't been able to inspire voters. The Liberals need someone with charisma.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-78321951117285485542008-03-05T04:04:00.000-07:002008-03-05T04:04:00.000-07:00>>I'm really wondering what were the 58% of Albert...>>I'm really wondering what were the 58% of Albertans who didn't vote were doing yesterday that was more important than voting?<<<BR/><BR/>They were watching the season finale of Terminator: The Sarah Connors Chronicles.Sean Cummingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01550744638377851070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-26621580610521863922008-03-05T01:52:00.000-07:002008-03-05T01:52:00.000-07:00I think these are the numbers that reflect what is...I think these are the numbers that reflect what is really going on:<BR/><BR/>22% of eligible Albertans voted PC<BR/>11% voted Liberal<BR/>4% voted NDP<BR/>3% voted WRA<BR/>2% voted Green<BR/><BR/>22% = 87% PC seats<BR/>11% = 11% Liberal seats<BR/>4% = 2% NDP seats<BR/>3% = 0% WRA seats<BR/>2% = 0% Green seats<BR/><BR/>The problem is clear. It's up to us to fix this, because those who benefit from the status quo will not, and they are the ones in power. Referendums on electoral reform have failed in Ontario, and B.C. before that. How then can we effect real change?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-71709221137634162042008-03-05T01:35:00.000-07:002008-03-05T01:35:00.000-07:00Yup, Albertans are exactly as the PC Party wants t...Yup, Albertans are exactly as the PC Party wants them: blissfully apathetic and/or disenfranchised. Short of a coup-d'etat, perhaps the only key to representative government for worldly, progressive Albertans is to heed Craig Chandler's advice and move on. That's a very, very sad thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-55361891781004706872008-03-05T00:00:00.000-07:002008-03-05T00:00:00.000-07:00But Stelmach said the low turnout was because peop...But Stelmach said the low turnout was because people are happy. If Stelmach said it and it was quoted in the Sun it must be true. <BR/><BR/>Were all breathing a sigh of relief now that we won't lose those 300,000 jobs.Robert McBean.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03785114322799288514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-69712651211737922682008-03-04T22:59:00.000-07:002008-03-04T22:59:00.000-07:00I was not surprised the Tories gained seats in Edm...I was not surprised the Tories gained seats in Edmonton, but I figured any gains in Edmonton would be offset by losses in Calgary. That being said the pollsters number wise were pretty accurate, they only messed up seat projections. Part of this could be in the past the Tories have always done significantly better in Calgary than Edmonton (20% higher under Klein) while this time around the Liberals and Tories both got roughly the same share of the popular vote in both cities. In fact Stelmach's popular vote was more in line with Klein's in 1997 than Klein in 2001, but he seat wise got closer to what Klein got in 2001 in large part because Klein racked up massive majorities in Calgary, while Stelmach won by much smaller margins in Calgary.Monkey Loves to Fighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122291567543761919noreply@blogger.com