tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post8434727593866123930..comments2023-11-02T06:37:23.839-06:00Comments on daveberta.ca: greens to launch constitutional challenge.davebertahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06822739409684978316noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-53728570613082980702008-04-19T21:51:00.000-06:002008-04-19T21:51:00.000-06:00There is also a constitutional challenge to be mad...There is also a constitutional challenge to be made about "every vote being equal" because of the gross rural over representation in Alberta. There will be a re-districting before the next election but historically those have on perpetuated the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-28825217669830664132008-04-16T12:29:00.000-06:002008-04-16T12:29:00.000-06:00You don't have to be rich to launch a court case i...You don't have to be rich to launch a court case if you represent yourself. <BR/><BR/>I haven't got the first $250 back from when I ran never mind the second, but it certainly does seem backwards on its face that the "rich get richer" when the winner gets a second $250. <BR/><BR/>The Liberal candidate in my riding worked like a dog, personally knocking on every door, and didn't get his full deposit back.<BR/><BR/>That said, there is a policy reason here and that's to keep people off the ballot who don't a realistic chance at winning. If you don't have a good chance at getting half of the winner's votes, you've got almost no chance of getting more than the winner's votes. You're wasting not just your time but the system's time.<BR/><BR/>So it's ultimately a logical corollary of the first past the post system. The problem is FPTP, not whether the deposit is refundable. That is to say, the problem is that smaller parties have no realistic chance of winning representation in the first place. Tf one were to believe that's a good thing, then the no refund policy is merely consistent.Brian Dellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01987594019787137564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-22504816011945515172008-04-16T12:15:00.000-06:002008-04-16T12:15:00.000-06:00Hmmmm.From one anonymous to another,right back at ...Hmmmm.From one anonymous to another,right back at you.This is a permitted use and don't shoot the messanger.If Mr Ed is happy,guess we all should be.At least it doesn't appear ot be any sensorship here???Engaging ALL citizens is a good start.Remeber even Mr Ed represents all his constituents,irreregardless of their poltitcal viewsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-50901965177748226102008-04-16T08:06:00.000-06:002008-04-16T08:06:00.000-06:00Here's an idea how to start a citizen's revolt, yo...Here's an idea how to start a citizen's revolt, you post anonymously on blogs...give your head a shake.<BR/><BR/>It's always amusing to watch how some people don't learn anything in defeat, because they refuse to blame themselves, so let's all blame the system!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-51050592890976073752008-04-15T18:50:00.000-06:002008-04-15T18:50:00.000-06:00with any luck it will highlight the need for elect...with any luck it will highlight the need for election reform.Mr Ed and his posse id certainly not going to tinker with what he views as "not broken".Lets not forget he has said the low voter turnout is a sign of people being satisfied with the performance of government.With that in mind Boutilier in WoodBuffalo is doing a heck of a job.Anyone have aby suggestions how we can instill a citizens revolt and force the government to review its archaic views on representation???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-75257961651320042008-04-15T09:42:00.000-06:002008-04-15T09:42:00.000-06:00The Greens are either rich or stupid... even if th...The Greens are either rich or stupid... even if they win this, the amount they would recover in nomination fees will never match their legal costs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-41093626087413898112008-04-15T00:13:00.000-06:002008-04-15T00:13:00.000-06:00I think the Greens are going to win this case.Ther...I think the Greens are going to win this case.<BR/><BR/>There was a court case in Ontario were a $250 non-refundable deposit if you didn't get 10% of the vote was declared a violation of s. 3 of the constitution.<BR/><BR/>That will be pursuasive, probably, and it probably will, the Greens will win.<BR/><BR/>The federal electoral finance laws that give parties money for the votes they receive are also susceptible, though there is a greater chance those could be saved by s. 1, because they actually have a valid purpose.Gauntlethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05061438876627317881noreply@blogger.com