tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post933584133049054567..comments2023-11-02T06:37:23.839-06:00Comments on daveberta.ca: that's a pretty big tangent...davebertahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06822739409684978316noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-30380718570291459132009-06-25T18:23:41.548-06:002009-06-25T18:23:41.548-06:00On the update: EXACTLY Dave. People have been dist...On the update: EXACTLY Dave. People have been distracted from the real issue, which is that Evans was in Ontario to discuss something the Alberta government has not done for a while--borrowing money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-6729108599815123472009-06-24T19:11:34.103-06:002009-06-24T19:11:34.103-06:00Response to your update. If Iris can't even ad...Response to your update. If Iris can't even add why would you give her credit to think she would be smart enough to distract us from the truth? You will have to face it she's just plain old incompetentDerrick Jacobsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12639241997657650190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-91766657927639197752009-06-21T14:30:24.560-06:002009-06-21T14:30:24.560-06:00We made the sacrifice and my husband stayed home w...We made the sacrifice and my husband stayed home with the kids. They were in daycare before that, and I can say that having a stay at home parent made a big, big difference. The kids were happier and more centered because of it.<br /><br />Couples like us, who make the sacrifice, and yes, you suffer economically when you are on only one salary, and this extends later, when pension income is reduced when you are a senior, deserve just as much recognition as those where both mom and dad work. <br /><br />What really upsets me though, is even though we are making the sacrifice, those that are both working and making more money have their hats out, expecting people like us to subsidize their daycare.<br /><br />Good on Iris, and shame on the rest of you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-85725769931457385172009-06-19T23:50:34.446-06:002009-06-19T23:50:34.446-06:00Good post, Dave, - great ending. Great comments, ...Good post, Dave, - great ending. Great comments, from many people, also.<br />Marnie Tunay<br />Fakirs Canada<br />http://fakirscanada.spaces.live.com/Fakirs Canadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12194254351555848321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-34167491197148751742009-06-19T13:50:17.136-06:002009-06-19T13:50:17.136-06:00Seaner, just because someone disagrees with you do...Seaner, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them ingorant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-66881308593618303682009-06-19T09:03:08.977-06:002009-06-19T09:03:08.977-06:00Comments stupid. Yup. No doubt. I'm a Conse...Comments stupid. Yup. No doubt. I'm a Conservative, President of my constituency, but at a certain point, you need to not just tow the party line.<br /><br />That being said, while she didn't articulate it, the sentiment was "we need to take responsibility for our children and not just look to someone else to pick up our slack". And that I can get behind.Robert G. Harvie, Q.C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10414822301931567654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-83863434541911706472009-06-19T08:32:00.585-06:002009-06-19T08:32:00.585-06:00Why did Evans apologize? Isn't that what she b...Why did Evans apologize? Isn't that what she believes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-52783137471813114292009-06-19T01:31:54.959-06:002009-06-19T01:31:54.959-06:00What a great idea! Let's make post-secondary e...What a great idea! Let's make post-secondary education free, like it is in Australia, so we don't have to pay off student loans for years and years after we graduate. Both parents can save a whole lot of dough that way.<br /><br />This whole charade sounds like "let them eat cake" - which one parent can easily bake if he or she is staying home to raise the children.lyricalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02405152724476514152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-86192973345335484502009-06-18T23:48:45.377-06:002009-06-18T23:48:45.377-06:00My wife and I decided she would stay home to raise...My wife and I decided she would stay home to raise our children. They turned out OK. Damned if I can see much difference, though, between them and their friends who went to daycare. The only difference I've noticed, actually, is that when those kids grow up to be parents, their kids' grandparents will be enjoying a decent retirement. Meanwhile, my grandkids' grandparents will be inviting them over for dogfood thanks to the three quarters of a million in income we gave up to "properly" raise their parents. But at least I'll have the comfort of knowing I'm some kind of hero to the fruitcake fundamentalist hillbillies who run this province. Someone remind me: Is there a reason we keep re-electing these morons?Harry Marmotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-23687197856177290262009-06-18T21:34:34.635-06:002009-06-18T21:34:34.635-06:00As a working mother, I found the Minister's co...As a working mother, I found the Minister's comments to be extremely offensive. Who decides what "properly" means anyway? Frankly, no matter what choice a family makes with respect to their child care, we could all use more support and less judgment.Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15301213872067163732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-86152171137546998642009-06-18T21:03:10.589-06:002009-06-18T21:03:10.589-06:00So Iris, I guess your 30 years of public service d...So Iris, I guess your 30 years of public service don't count as being a working mom - sounds like the pot calling the kettle black! Oh wait, I get it, you're actually 70 years old, had your kids when you were 25 after getting a "degree in nursing", went back to work at 40 when the kids were in their early teens. Sorry Iris, you threw me off with your dressing like a color blind cocktail waitress.Normanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-41248495434510038492009-06-18T19:35:19.688-06:002009-06-18T19:35:19.688-06:00BTW why are there always so many anonymous people ...BTW why are there always so many anonymous people on here? Hiding or too lazy to get an account?Seener Beanerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15556544454784059314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-4371239341706765972009-06-18T19:34:16.835-06:002009-06-18T19:34:16.835-06:00I've heard the opinion of a handful of PC MLA&...I've heard the opinion of a handful of PC MLA's in Alberta and some seem to agree with Evans, others don't. I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion, ignorant or not.Seener Beanerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15556544454784059314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-12174477386789963982009-06-18T18:11:59.859-06:002009-06-18T18:11:59.859-06:00The argument about what parents should or should n...The argument about what parents should or should not do is irrelevant. What I hate are politicians that get all preachy and abuse their elected position by telling us how to live our lives. If I want to hear a sermon, I'll go to a church.<br /><br />Politicians and especially finance ministers running %5 billion deficits need to shut up and listen.<br /><br />Maybe Iris Evans should visit Saskatchewan instead of Toronto and listen to Brad Wall explain to her how his province is running a surplus.<br /><br />Kevin AschimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-21687817810271905052009-06-18T15:17:38.094-06:002009-06-18T15:17:38.094-06:00I'm always amused by comments about stupidity ...I'm always amused by comments about stupidity from a person who can't even spell "goatee".<br /><br />Even you can't be so "throbbing with stupidity" to imagine that Tom Olsen could anticipate the Minister of Finance and Enterprise might end up talking about child-rearing while speaking to the Economic Club.Chandler Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14473757931049841909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-2646772364904152012009-06-18T14:55:46.773-06:002009-06-18T14:55:46.773-06:00I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this as Prin...I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss this as Princess Iris speaking her mind off the cuff.<br /><br />Her speech was so inarticulate and throbbing with stupidity that it could only have been written by Tom Olsen.Lloyd Snelgrove's Creepy Goatteenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-56491858412474414402009-06-18T13:49:49.270-06:002009-06-18T13:49:49.270-06:00Seener why don't you call your MLA and ask wha...Seener why don't you call your MLA and ask what he or she thinks? I'm sure there's a diverse set of views in the whole caucus - even including the radical far right Rob Anderson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-25636342496201151762009-06-18T13:17:15.194-06:002009-06-18T13:17:15.194-06:00This couldn't have surfaced in the media at a ...This couldn't have surfaced in the media at a worse time for me. I just went back to work on June 8th after a year on maternity leave. I felt so guilty and horrible for putting my little guy in daycare. He cried every day for a week. I am not doing it because I have too much of a choice right now. My husband I don't both work because we want a bigger house or a second car or a flat screen. We do it because it is expensive to live in Alberta, and because I would have a hard time getting back into the labour force after a few years off. I also plan on having another kid soon, so I need all the EI time I can get. <br /><br />The ties to mental illness and dysfunctionality is extremely offensive to me. Sure she has the right to her own opinion, but as the minister of finance, she should have more tact.Seener Beanerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15556544454784059314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-6162008931722278972009-06-18T12:32:17.737-06:002009-06-18T12:32:17.737-06:00Regarding:
Irony??
David Swann and his wife chose...Regarding:<br />Irony??<br /><br />David Swann and his wife chose to have a parent stay at home to raise their kids. Strange he is so vehemently opposing the reasoning behind his decision. Evans said nothing about it being one sex or the other, just stated that kids are often better off with a parent in the home. Studies continually support this. Whats the problem?<br /><br />You miss the point genius. Sure, there's nothing wrong with staying at home to raise a child - it's a choice. BUT, when Iris says that parents must stay home in order to raise their child "PROPERLY", there's a problem. I may choose to send my kid to catholic school, but if I say that children who go to public school will develop mental illness and are not raised properly, I'm making a pretty ignorant remark. SOO, the PROBLEM (I'm repeating myself so it may sink in), is that Iris just said that parents who can't afford to stay home and raise their child are raising future criminals and crazies. Get it?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-78940283638051406862009-06-18T12:27:53.144-06:002009-06-18T12:27:53.144-06:00Someone needs to remind Iris that Albertans don...Someone needs to remind Iris that Albertans don't have the luxury of giving themselves a 34% pay increase during an economic crisis, behind closed doors with no oversight or input from their employer - in this case, Albertans. Sure, if I could just say "stay home and raise the kids honey, I'll just give myself a huge raise and it'll be fine," that might be an option. Give your head a shake Iris. As an aside, I'm surprised that more people aren't outraged with the "lack of education and poor parenting leads to mental illness" comment. WTF?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-86712896238117642912009-06-18T12:03:17.936-06:002009-06-18T12:03:17.936-06:00Why don't you do a survey, Anon at 11:52? The...Why don't you do a survey, Anon at 11:52? Their e-mails are freely available, and I can't imagine a single member of the PC Caucus who would respond (politely) to a survey from Cournoyer. And what does it matter anyway? Are you entitled to know everything a politician thinks? No. You're entitled to judge him (or her) by what he says or does. Thoughtcrime was only a crime in a book and in Nazi Germany. So, until someone starts legislating that one parent stay home, it might behoove you to worry about more important things than one woman's misguided opinions?Chandler Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14473757931049841909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-50629218192451560642009-06-18T12:03:09.663-06:002009-06-18T12:03:09.663-06:00Frank: thanks for that! Of course they're all...Frank: thanks for that! Of course they're allowed to have their opinions, but so is everyone else. When you've been given a position of great power and a platform from which to speak, you have a responsibility to take into account the impact of your message. The Minister no longer has the freedom of only considering her own point of view, but now represents the province when she is given the public platform. Her comments were not only insensitive, they were ignorant and once again embarrassed the province.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-81349721465859558362009-06-18T11:52:30.865-06:002009-06-18T11:52:30.865-06:00I'd like to see this blogger do a survey of th...I'd like to see this blogger do a survey of the PC caucus and see who agrees with this minister.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-18615610108042829402009-06-18T11:30:22.164-06:002009-06-18T11:30:22.164-06:00Since when are Ministers not allowed to have opini...<i>Since when are Ministers not allowed to have opinions? I fear for a world where politicians say nothing for fear of saying the wrong thing because there are microphones around.</i><br /><br />Oh, they're allowed. Just as we're allowed to call them the idiots that they are.<br /><br />But of all the things to fear in this world, politicians like Iris Evans refraining from saying stupid shit in the future is pretty low on my list.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10290429.post-80525931158503222732009-06-18T10:41:57.114-06:002009-06-18T10:41:57.114-06:00If the Minister believes having one parent stay ho...If the Minister believes having one parent stay home is best or that education is part of solution to lowering crime then in her next budget she should fund those very programs which would allow for her wishes to come true. Swann should be demanding that the Minister follow through with her views. Lets get increased funding for education so class sizes can be decreased allowing for an improved educational experience. Hopefully the Minister is willing to fund her views.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com